Just the two of us….

Breath Mint?

“You can’t even comprehend what I am! I’a a force o’ nature — the beast in the wild! That little runt you’re all so scared of is nothin’ but a pale imitation o’ me!”
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“It’s Latin. Back in the days of the Roman Empire. ‘Quod sum eris.’ ‘I am what you will be.’ No matter where you go, no matter what you do or don’t do, it can’t be stopped. You are going to become… me.”

Sabertooth

In honor of the Wolverine movie coming out and the fact that geeks usually have something to complain about when comic movies are made, sometimes I’m one of them, I thought it would be interesting to look at one complaint about the film from a different take. The biggest group of complaints about any comic book movie rests in getting things right. If it wasn’t like that in the book many geeks won’t like it. However, sometimes there is a bigger issue with the comic than the movie…that issue my friends…is retcon. So here’s the complaint I’m working with:

Geek voice: “Wolverine and Sabertooth aren’t brothers.” That’s true…now. The relationship between Sabertooth and Wolverine is complex and depending on what writer was working on the books at the time it has changed…a lot.

1. Same Person, kinda - John Byrne drew a face for Wolverine and upon learning that John Romita Sr. had done one that had been used…he turned this character into Sabertooth a villan for Iron Fist

3. Father - After creating Sabertooth Byrne, who had fought to not have Wolverine dropped early on, wanted to make him Wolverine’s father (Chris Claremont wanted this as well). Later writers didn’t.

3. Brother - Origins depicted Dog Logan as Wolverines half-brother (who hated him) he had a strong resemblance to Sabertooth and it was revealed that this was going to become a possible origin of their fued. (The writer didn’t intend this, but said it wouldn’t bother him if another writer did it later). Later writers didn’t.

4. Members of rival clans - Some story line in another book had them as members of rival Wolf and Bear Clans that had been fighting throughout history. Other writers did not pick up on this.

5. Son - It’s a different continuity for certain, but in the Ultimates they made Sabertooth Wolverine’s son.

6. Lupines - So a continuing Arc is has some dude named Romulus as a mastermind behind the experiments and tampering done with Wolverine. This dude has an interest in all the “Feral” type mutants. In this arc Sabertooth has been used as one of Wolverines “handlers”.

7. Teammates - One thing that hasn’t changed once established is that at one time the two were teammates working for the CIA and they were both part of the Weapon X project that gave Wolverine his Adamantium skeleton.

8. Rivals - This also never changes…so much so that at one point Sabertooth was apart of the X-Men and when Wolverine heard (he wasn’t around at the time) he came straight to the Mansion and the two of them started scrapping.

8. Whatever comes next - A retcon is a tool for a writer to change something in a stories history. Or for a different writer to toss out his predecessors idea so he can do whatever he now wants. So down the line who knows what the relationship will be?

WWWD:
Wolverine: “I… urkgl.. wanted to know what you… what you meant by.. ‘quod sum eris.”
Creed: “What? You ask me that now after all these years? You can go to hell.”
Wolverine: “Been there. They got your bed all made up and ready for you. Got a feelin’ though. A real sick feelin’, Creed.. that we’re going to be sharing a room together down there.”

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  1. I agree. That was the part that most comic book purists will bring up. I do think it makes for an effective storyline and will lead to good battles in the future. However, they never really explained why another man was raising Wolverine as his son and why Sabretooth was just hanging out there with them in the beginning of the movie. Hmmm.

    Plot wise….this was the weakest one. The beauty of X-men for me is the constant struggle between the mutants between working with mankind or against mankind despite them being feared and persecuted. No emotional or political statement with this one….just action. Lots and lots of action.

    However, their depiction of the mutants and their powers were great. I thought Deadpool, Sabretooth (much better casting than the previous movies), Agent Zero and Gambit were great.

    Comment by 1969 — May 4, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

  2. I kinda liked the cool Sabretooth in the New Exiles strip myself. Of course alternate realities are the ish!

    Comment by jdid — May 5, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

  3. Good post, man. I’m a bit up on Wolvie’s continuity as well, and remember most of your points. My gripe with the movie was that they even saw fit to change the Origins origin story; I don’t think they needed to change it at all to add dramatic flare. And they TOTALLY ruined the Deadpool character. I thought the early depiction of him in the Weapon X unit was cool, but they ruined it when they gave him a shitload of powers and made him unable to speak. Katana swords coming out of his hands? For real? That SUCKED! It ruined the experience for me, and probably for a lot of other fanboys as well.

    Comment by Mark Dub — May 5, 2009 @ 7:04 pm

  4. I’m too much of a fanboy and found myself having to tone it down to see Star Trek after I had revved myself up so much to go see Wolverine. I don’t know. I probably wouldn’t have ever scene an effort worthy of my expectations. It made me feel good that alot of other people didn’t find it good as well.

    Loved the points you presented here. So many back stories on Wolverine’s past. I recall the Romulus instigator having a paw in just about every major Wolverine arc (depending on if you’re referring to the current continuity or the one depicted in the Ultimate universe.)

    I’m a huge Byrne fan and I recall them wanting to make Sabretooth Wolverine’s father. Bummer. Can you imagine what that would have been like if it had gone through. Who knows? His back story would have had one definitive aspect to it. Cool post bro.

    Comment by Luke Cage — May 9, 2009 @ 10:17 am

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